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Poster: Reade Date: Dec 16, 2012 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that burned you out (DEAD too)

These two may ring a bell with anybody old enough to remember the way in which they were in heavy rotation circa summer of '73:

Ramblin' Man Allman Bros.
Angie Stones
EDIT: Oh yeah. It's earlier than '73 but...'Bridge Over Troubled Waters.'


This post was modified by Reade on 2012-12-16 20:19:17

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 16, 2012 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that burned you out (DEAD too)

BINGO!

Defn recall Angie making me wanna puke! The Stones, really!?? Yuck...

And, RMan, I liked, so the only one along with CCR ones that never did bother me...ie, overplay.

For me it was fall of 73 that I recall RMan on a LOT.

And, yep you agree about BOTWaters...

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Dec 16, 2012 3:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that burned you out (DEAD too)

Anything by Coldplay.

Critics call them the new U2.

Of course, nobody calls U2 the old Coldplay.


Black Water by the Doobies. Taking it to the Streets too.


Philadelphia Freedom by Sir Elton.

Band on the Run by Sir Paul.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 16, 2012 4:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that burned you out (DEAD too)

Yikes!!!? Yes on BWater!!! OMG, this is bringing back memories, v bad memories...well, some good now that I think of it. TittStreets as well; they were almost as BAD as the Eagles during the 70s.

Air time was just OWNED by LedZ, Eagles and DBrothers back then...

I think this is why folks here dont' understand how BAD it was when we thought Brent was bringing "a doobie brother sound" to the DEAD...ugh.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Dec 16, 2012 7:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Songs that burned you out (DEAD too)

Exactly. And I think there's a GD Generational Divide where "Brent Marks the Spot," and the way we process his voice is a lot of it. The Doobie-ish thing is partly why his voice seems slick to me, which I think it doesn't to everyone; I've mentioned this, and people will say, "Oh, he makes mistakes," etc, but that's not what I mean. It's the specific glossy Doobie-twin vocal sound, which is what makes him a "good" singer, but it also sounds so Late 70s Radio-Approved Packaged Pop. So I can appreciate his backing vocals, but when his voice becomes too prominent, it just never seems right to me.

Ditto the tinky-winky synth sounds. Very "of the times," and not in a good way.

Not that you have this issue, cuz you don't listen to much Keith, let alone Brent :-)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 17, 2012 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why you MUST recognize pop is wrong...

Ah ha! Yes, you have nailed it precisely; I have gathered that only a couple of yrs separate the two of us, and think that's true with Ring as well, and you are right this is "missing" for many of the folks that only saw them from the mid 80s on, or whatever...ie, you understand the basis for my whining about how big Shakedown was at the time, or how much Brent sounding slick (yes) like the DB's was a HUGE issue.

Part of it is a knee-jerk reaction given we DEAD Heads were snobs (yes, v much so really) with the "anti-establishment, anti-pop, success in an organic, natural fashion" that any response to pop culture was enough to make us throw up.

Today, folks that didn't live through it don't "get it" (that these were legit CONCERNS of THE fans...) AND are guilty of an even bigger crime, IMHO, than those that are not heads to start with, that are guilty of "not getting the sound" to begin with...

Assume that makes sense--the scene, the band, what they stood for--these are iconic issues of REAL importance...so when the band provide hints they were no longer engaged in an "anti-pop" crusade, it sent shivers down our collective vertebral elements...

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 17, 2012 11:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why you MUST recognize pop is wrong...

I recall skepticism regarding bands "selling out" or "going commercial" among my brother and his friends. Not necessarily regarding GD, but other bands.

I think we all like to feel "in the know" and, while we root for our heroes to succeed, we cringe when the masses form a bandwagon. Then, we want the world to know that we were here first.

I think even Mozart had fans that said, "Dude, I jammed with him back in '62! Waaay before Vienna.".

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 17, 2012 12:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why you MUST recognize pop is wrong...

Yup; that's me to a T...of course, bailing out in 82 gave me even MORE moral author-a-tie, eh?

;)